Apr
09
Posted (Van Santos) in Bullshit! on April-9-2009

There seems to be a self-imposed sense of respect towards other writers within the blogging world; however, as bloggers we open ourselves up to a wide range of possibilities, including the possibility that others will lack respect. An e-friend of mine, Clementine @ Invincible Summers, recently had the misfortune of such an experience.

Jim Edwards, a writer for CBS Interactive’s bnet, recently penned a quick overview to Kim’s interview with a Pharma sales person and called her “insane

Mr. Edwards is not offering an opinion but rather making a statement about Kim, a statement that he did not substantiate. Does that not sound like libel to you? (Slander being the spoken version)

Maybe the comment was meant to be sarcastic but if that was the case why would he title this comment “The Crap that sales reps have to put up with”? That, to me, is evidence Mr. Edwards is not employing sarcasm but rather making a statement bordering on a personal attack. Seeing the site Jim writes for is owned by CBS Interactive, I would like to know if that company also believes Kim is insane and how do they arrive at that conclusion?

Yes, we place ourselves in a position where the world can criticize our views, our beliefs and our experiences, which is fair, but when false and defamatory information is published – especially by a large media organization – the line of acceptability is crossed.

This behavior is unacceptable by any blogger, let alone large media organizations. Any and all credibility bnet ever had with me is now lost unless actions are taken on their part to correct the situation.

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Comments:
kim on April 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am #

thank you!

Gianna on April 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am #

oh, yeah…well…I’ve seen a ton of ugly crap go down since I’ve been blogging…

people think because you can’t see a person in front of your face there is no emotional or any other consequence…that’s blatantly untrue…

I’ve been torn to shreds numerous times…and once on a very popular blog written by a THERAPIST…lovely!

and the greater your readership goes the more frequent the attacks become, which of course makes sense, but it’s an icky price of success.

Gianna on April 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am #

and yes, I agree it WAS slander…couldn’t understand why others didn’t see it clearly!

Van Santos on April 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm #

@Kim

No need to thank me, Kim! It’s true, you should – no one should – be subject to such actions. I think people need to be called out when they act in such a manner… and I have no problem doing so when it impacts my friends.

Plus, the more people discussing it the more bnet looks disrespectful in their writing/editing.

@Gianna

I’ve been witness to a bunch of crap as well, and I really think people just want to hurt others because the feel than can get away with it (like you said, lack of face to face).

You would be surprised as to how much crap I do not allow to make it to the comment section because it is disrespectful or rude. I have no problem with different views, just be respectful….or get deleted.

Wandering Coyote on April 9th, 2009 at 3:22 pm #

Yeah…I’ve seen and experienced some pretty bad stuff, too. About a year ago, I had a pretty abusive troll on my blog and I was the subject of many a vitriolic rant, and then after putting up comment moderation, this person started a blog purely devoted to slagging me. It’s gone now.

Yes we do open ourselves up to all kinds of stuff – good and bad. What I like about blogging is that I have choic: if I don’t like content, then I can choose not to visit, participate, or support.

OzSoapbox on April 9th, 2009 at 3:58 pm #

I think labelling someone “insane” is fair enough, it’s an opinion in itself.

If Jim Edwards was a psychologist and there was any chance he might be using it in a clinical sense then fair enough but otherwise it’s just not worth it.

As Bloggers if we want to be able to criticise others I think it’s important that it be reciprocated with other members of the online community.

Van Santos on April 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm #

@OzSoapBox

I would agree with you if he stated that it was his opinion. In this case he does not appear to have done so, rather stated it as fact. Thanks for stopping in, btw.

@WC

Exactly! If you don’t like it you (or a reader) have the option to say “na, I’m not going to read”.

I’m surprised that someone started a blog to just going after you! Tho, that does explain your warning before someone leaves a comment on your site.

Gianna on April 9th, 2009 at 4:39 pm #

WC,
I had the same thing happen where a woman started a blog in which every entry was about how messed up I was and it was REALLY nasty…

It was up for about 3 weeks as far as I know, but after I discovered it the first time I didn’t go back, which I think helped dissuade her.

weird…and it’s basically cyber stalking.

Wandering Coyote on April 9th, 2009 at 5:04 pm #

Gianna: It is TOTALLY cyber-stalking. THEN this woman started emailing me tons of times each day, threatening to “out” me as a fraud – she claimed she knew someone in the admissions office at my alma mater and could prove I never finished my university degree – amongst other things. It went on for several months. Then she started emailing my friends and asking them to mend fences with me because she was such a sick person and needed help…ETC! It went on and on and on. THANKFULLY, I haven’t heard from her since last July.

Van Santos on April 9th, 2009 at 7:44 pm #

@WC and Gianna

Oh GOD! That is scary on so many levels. I had a real life stalking experience, which was just odd, but nothing like what you two are talking about.

In either of your cases, did you attempt to address it in email (not in a ‘public’ forum)? I’m guessing you did and it just didn’t turn out well either. Actually, how did you guys realize what you were dealing with… that is to say, when did you think “hmmm…something is not right here…”

I’m sorry both of you had to deal with that!

Wandering Coyote on April 9th, 2009 at 7:50 pm #

I didn’t want to email this person back to give any validity to what she was saying. I addressed a few of her comments on my blog in the comments, but as it got worse and worse, I just moderated out all of her comments and completely ignored her.

Van Santos on April 9th, 2009 at 7:57 pm #

That is a good way of thinking about it, one that didn’t even strike me. I guess on your blog was is the best when the situation is…difficult… because a) there is no ‘he said, she said’ and b) you have the ability to control just how far it goes.

When I addressed my issue with a stalker in REAL life, I did so head on… which didn’t make it any better… made it worse as a matter of fact.

Ah well.

kim on April 10th, 2009 at 12:05 am #

Gianna and WC: so sorry for the horrible experiences you’ve been through. I’ve received a few nasty comments at my blog which I delete but this was the first time a journalist (who I have never met nor was I familiar with) attacked me by calling me ‘insane’ at his website-he is employed by CBS Interactive. I’m still getting hits from his article which ran several days ago.

It bothered me and yet I’m attempting to move on from the disturbing experience.

And Van-thanks for you help on this.

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